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So a few of us have had characters having been associated with the planet Earth. Of course, since Earth is confirmed not to be in the Manaverse, we must create a planet similiar enough to it that certain stuff will be able to work. But until we actually come up with a page for the planet of whateverthehellwe'regoingtocallit, let's just leave this section open for basic info. | So a few of us have had characters having been associated with the planet Earth. Of course, since Earth is confirmed not to be in the Manaverse, we must create a planet similiar enough to it that certain stuff will be able to work. But until we actually come up with a page for the planet of whateverthehellwe'regoingtocallit, let's just leave this section open for basic info. | ||
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{[[User:Keileon|Keileon]] || [[User Talk:Keileon|Talk]]} 00:52, 20 October 2014 (UTC) | {[[User:Keileon|Keileon]] || [[User Talk:Keileon|Talk]]} 00:52, 20 October 2014 (UTC) | ||
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+ | == Hell Superdimension == | ||
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+ | I saved a Pastebin of some snippets that I found important out of the other night's discussion on the Hell Superdimension. Further discussion can go here, or on the forums in its own topic. | ||
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+ | http://pastebin.com/waU042ze --[[User:Eebit|Eebit]] ([[User talk:Eebit|talk]]) 18:09, 6 October 2015 (UTC) | ||
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+ | == Drei Timeline Development == | ||
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+ | Logging dev sessions here so they aren't lost. | ||
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+ | *6/3/2016: http://pastebin.com/dTJe5KnV | ||
+ | *7/9/2016: http://pastebin.com/EmDc2SFK | ||
+ | *8/1/2016: http://pastebin.com/L18tDsCj | ||
+ | *8/4/2016: http://pastebin.com/hCdSSMTh | ||
+ | *8/10/2016: http://pastebin.com/PwsnynQM | ||
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+ | {[[User:Keileon|Keileon]] || [[User Talk:Keileon|Talk]]} 06:24, 3 June 2016 (UTC) | ||
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+ | Preliminary ideas for Drei: | ||
+ | *Individual story routes coalescing into the Deveron storyline | ||
+ | **Kind of like a more chaotic and less centralized Alter, if you would. | ||
+ | **Characters would generally follow their own story routes before being drawn into the Deveron arc. | ||
+ | [[User:Shadow|Shadow]] ([[User talk:Shadow|talk]]) 20:37, 3 June 2016 (UTC) | ||
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+ | It would be kind of nice to determine what planets besides Deveron, Euthora, and Vindrgard would be involved, and what stance they'd take. | ||
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+ | We know Euthora is a willing ally to Deveron and Vindrgard is actively fighting the growing empire, but what about everywhere else? People generally don't seem to care about Drei just yet, which is fine, but it'd be nice getting places like Rokans or Mantua or Ferona to weigh in. | ||
+ | {[[User:Keileon|Keileon]] || [[User Talk:Keileon|Talk]]} 18:53, 4 June 2016 (UTC) | ||
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+ | I get the distinct impression that: | ||
+ | # Since the Second Great War happens in all three timelines, Nycas would use the other shit happening re: Deveron invasion to his advantage, leading to | ||
+ | # Not only would the Republics be split on who to support with regard to the Houses, but also whether to resist or assist the Voderan invaders, which ultimately leads to a few other things; | ||
+ | * When the Legion forms, it'll be forced to form earlier out of sheer necessity, and | ||
+ | * Its resources will be split trying to fight TWO wars at the same time, and finally | ||
+ | * There may be some infighting a la the Cult in Alter, though this is down to the other people with horses in that race to determine. | ||
+ | 3. This also means that my original plan to have Dark's family go on a Manaverse-travelling adventure will actually have an overarching plot, but will have to happen with them as part of the Legion. I'm okay with this. | ||
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+ | Shit just got real. --[[User:Nebulon Ranger|Nebulon Ranger]] ([[User talk:Nebulon Ranger|talk]]) 19:29, 5 June 2016 (UTC) | ||
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+ | Crysia confirmed to be taking (or be going to take) action against Vodera supremacy. | ||
+ | --[[User:Shadow|Shadow]] ([[User talk:Shadow|talk]]) 18:32, 6 June 2016 (UTC) | ||
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+ | I feel like Ceskion would be a cautious ally. The Sarkiri would be willing to help the Vodera if it doesn't impact them too much, but would fight back or escape to space at the first sign of Deveron trying to convert their culture or wipe them out. The Kovulzel would run and hide, and the Sarkiri are good enough at hunting them down that they're the only opinion that really matters for Ceskion. The Sarkiri might also object to Vodera occupation, simply because Ceskion isn't big enough to have the resources for all three races. {[[User:Keileon|Keileon]] || [[User Talk:Keileon|Talk]]} 21:56, 6 June 2016 (UTC) | ||
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+ | As it currently stands: | ||
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+ | *Euthora is so far the only confirmed planet to be siding with Deveron of its own volition, but past the surface is torn as to whether to keep supporting the Vodera. To quell a rebellion before it starts, Hirasu appoints a post-SCT Shiveztel as Skyking to rule by proxy. | ||
+ | *The "big three" in terms of resistance: Vindrgard, Crysia, and an intact Rinul, all on the "front lines" of the war. All three would be well-known among resisting planets and would likely help the inhabitants of said planets where possible. | ||
+ | **Citizens of an unnamed plant world fled to Rinul shortly before the Vodera would invade. Unbeknownst to them, their planet cycles Mana faster than the Vodera can keep up and thus is basically currently immune to Vorpalization. | ||
+ | *Ferona is torn and Ceskion hasn't been decided, but both are forcibly relevant due to Voderan presence in that Star System anyway. | ||
+ | *Until Shadow can develop his main's Drei story route and figure out what'd happen to a Vorpalized Phantasia, we have to assume Phantasia does not exist. | ||
+ | *Terrans would likely be eradicated, but we need to consider crazEcorp's potential response. | ||
+ | *Other planets have not been decided. Notably: All Starr and Giga planets (due to them refusing to get involved in Drei currently), Boravel, Vansyr, Daeridune, Yulatra (Just looking at planets category, likely missing a few) | ||
+ | *(Hypothetical) According to Shadow, the Hierarchs would even be torn as to whether they should let the war run its course or reboot the timeline entirely. | ||
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+ | {[[User:Keileon|Keileon]] || [[User Talk:Keileon|Talk]]} 03:45, 5 August 2016 (UTC) | ||
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+ | New cool stuff! | ||
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+ | First, of note, there's been a small change of plan regarding Ferona proper. Yes, the Second War happens during Deveron Shenanigans, but it isn't ALREADY happening as it starts. This means the following: | ||
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+ | * There would be time for a credible, powerful resistance force to form, basically meaning there's be bodies available to attempt to hold off both the sympathising and Voderan forces. Success may vary, but likelihood is higher now. | ||
+ | ** Even more interestingly, because of recent developments with regard to Lycans and Prana sensitivity, they'd be disproportionately represented in the resistance force. I'll write a new Lycan article detailing this later today. | ||
+ | ** This also mean that the Legion, having already formed at the earliest possible time out of sheer necessity, would be acting as the sort of "elite force" within the resistance, and would probably gain members by osmosis from the much larger resistance forces to help them fight the inevitable Second War. | ||
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+ | For the colonies, it gets a bit dicey: | ||
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+ | * Euthoran colony would likely try to actively resist, as they're already a minority on-planet. | ||
+ | * Mantuan colony, because Starr seems to want to bitch out, might not even exist. | ||
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+ | Well then, | ||
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+ | [[User:Nebulon Ranger|Nebulon Ranger]] ([[User talk:Nebulon Ranger|talk]]) 09:51, 9 August 2016 (UTC) | ||
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+ | New Pastebin developing the connection between Rinul and Plantworld. {[[User:Keileon|Keileon]] || [[User Talk:Keileon|Talk]]} 05:54, 11 August 2016 (UTC) |
Latest revision as of 05:54, 11 August 2016
Contents
So, basically, to start... we have our list of 'worlds' that are to be considered part of the Manaverse, our collective project on the lore of our communal worlds that function in similar ways. They are all governed (to my knowledge) by some degree of Mana Theory (detailed by Shadow below), and are also subject to the basic laws of the Manaverse (yet to be formalized).
- Armonia
- Causica
- Celaflora
- Ceskion
- Crysia
- Cytieresk
- Daeridune
- Deveron
- Euthora
- Ferona
- Greniou
- Kaichrona
- Mantua
- Ocera
- Phantasia
- Rinul
- Rokans
- Syelsumoia
- Terra
- Vindrgard
- Yulatra
--Eebit (talk) 01:41, 5 February 2014 (UTC)
UPDATE: As of March 27, 2014, Galamion is now a part of the Manaverse. --Eebit (talk) 00:23, 28 March 2014 (UTC)
err
hey shadow what was the Ereva homeworld called again I keep forgetting. Keileon (talk) 04:02, 3 June 2014 (UTC)
Goddamnit, I forgot how to alphabet. XD
Speaking of alphabet, we some have planets for half of the alphabet.
--Lord X-Giga-X (talk) 18:29, 3 June 2014 (UTC)
nvm Keileon (talk) 01:23, 4 June 2014 (UTC)
Timber has officially joined the Manaverse with Cytieresk! Keileon (talk) 18:06, 25 June 2014 (UTC)
I haven't had the chance to be in chat to discuss this, but with Galamion being shelved for an indeterminate length of time, I've started thinking about "trimming the fat," so to speak, in terms of the planets. We've got quite a few planets from people who aren't really "active participants" in the Manaverse (anymore), and it doesn't make much sense to keep these planets around. They're not developing anything. Planets like The Misty Isle, Ea, the S.S. Soaring Sky, Galamion, Cytieresk... the authors of these planets are not currently contributing to "Manaverse activity" (be that roleplays, the Wiki, or whatever). I feel like it would, at this point, be worth "storing" the information by putting them on the userpages/sandboxes (as is the case with Timber and Cytieresk), but "de-canonizing" them until later notice. Removing the categories so that they no longer show up in the site's navigation wouldn't be a bad idea, either.
Does that make sense? I guess I'd like to hear what the rest of you think of that idea. If they aren't "in active usage," is it worth keeping information about them around? --Eebit (talk) 07:27, 3 August 2015 (UTC)
I know that Timber's still working on Cytieresk, and she has a couple of characters involved in canon plots (Ynykh in a 1x1 I need to post for, and Azralle in CoU, though that may get retconned if she isn't available to CP). Otherwise I agree though. {Keileon || Talk} 08:59, 3 August 2015 (UTC)
I'd say go for it. --Lord X-Giga-X (talk) 16:33, 4 August 2015 (UTC)
Rokans
So the basic idea is the my main's ancestry (at least, on his father's side) traces back to the planet Rokans, a planet where ongoing conflict progressively has gotten worse. Much of it revolves around the conflict of two beings created during said conflict: Elevix Magnus and Infinic Juptois.
(Will add more once I've gotten thing somewhat organized. Just wanting to get this started. Though for the time being, feel free to ask any questions.)
The Planet of Terra
So a few of us have had characters having been associated with the planet Earth. Of course, since Earth is confirmed not to be in the Manaverse, we must create a planet similiar enough to it that certain stuff will be able to work. But until we actually come up with a page for the planet of whateverthehellwe'regoingtocallit, let's just leave this section open for basic info.
I honestly thought that Earth-not-in-the-Manaverse was going to be handwaved by multiversal travel of some sort, but if you want to make rehashed backgrounds Manaverse-friendly, I suppose this is a good parallel to start with. As I mentioned in the chat, there is a blank world that is very akin to Earth (i.e. fantasy elements such as magic being undiscovered and practically nonexistent in society, despite being in the Manaverse) that I created solely to work with Friae's backstory. If any of you want to take the concept for this end, you're free to do so. --Shadow (talk) 00:48, 24 March 2014 (UTC)
Oops, forgot about this lol
I wasn't planning on that for anything on my end at all, partially because I'd have to figure out how to get certain characters there in the first place. I also didn't want my main to be born on Rokans or the other planet I'll eventually start working on because either case would imply that he knows about current events on Rokans (which he does not). Either way, I'd be fine with using that concept for this.
--Lord X-Giga-X (talk) 17:06, 20 April 2014 (UTC)
List of -Impery Abilities
- Achlympery: manipulation of darkness
- Acuimpery: manipulation of sharpness
- Aeroimpery: manipulation of wind
- Avimpery: manipulation of birds
- Chronoimpery: manipulation of time
- Crebrimpery: manipulation of frequencies
- Cryoimpery: manipulation of ice
- Dolimpery: manipulation of pain
- Dracoimpery: manipulation of/affinity with dragons
- Electroimpery: manipulation of electricity
- Ergoimpery: manipulation of energy
- Geoimpery: manipulation of earth
- Hematoimpery: manipulation of blood
- Hydroimpery: manipulation of water
- Metalloimpery: manipulation of metal
- Necroimpery: manipulation of the dead
- Nihilimpery: manipulation of nothingness
- Oleoimpery: manipulation of oil
- Osteoimpery: manipulation of bones
- Photoimpery: manipulation of light
- Physimpery: manipulation of nature
- Psychimpery: manipulation of the psyche
- Pyroimpery: manipulation of fire
- Sonoimpery: manipulation of sound
- Sorsimpery: manipulation of fate
- Spatioimpery: manipulation of space
- Synesthimpery: manipulation of perception
- Thaumatoimpery: manipulation of reality
- Thermoimpery: manipulation of temperature
- Toximpery: manipulation of poisons
- Vacuoimpery: manipulation of the void
- Xenoimpery: manipulation of the arcane
https://docs.google.com/a/zejroleplaying.org/spreadsheets/d/1mQ-JpXdzlx8_5yJ46YFp_7eOeYKb95VeeIeSxwatIAU/edit#gid=0 {Keileon || Talk} 00:52, 20 October 2014 (UTC)
Hell Superdimension
I saved a Pastebin of some snippets that I found important out of the other night's discussion on the Hell Superdimension. Further discussion can go here, or on the forums in its own topic.
http://pastebin.com/waU042ze --Eebit (talk) 18:09, 6 October 2015 (UTC)
Drei Timeline Development
Logging dev sessions here so they aren't lost.
- 6/3/2016: http://pastebin.com/dTJe5KnV
- 7/9/2016: http://pastebin.com/EmDc2SFK
- 8/1/2016: http://pastebin.com/L18tDsCj
- 8/4/2016: http://pastebin.com/hCdSSMTh
- 8/10/2016: http://pastebin.com/PwsnynQM
{Keileon || Talk} 06:24, 3 June 2016 (UTC)
Preliminary ideas for Drei:
- Individual story routes coalescing into the Deveron storyline
- Kind of like a more chaotic and less centralized Alter, if you would.
- Characters would generally follow their own story routes before being drawn into the Deveron arc.
Shadow (talk) 20:37, 3 June 2016 (UTC)
It would be kind of nice to determine what planets besides Deveron, Euthora, and Vindrgard would be involved, and what stance they'd take.
We know Euthora is a willing ally to Deveron and Vindrgard is actively fighting the growing empire, but what about everywhere else? People generally don't seem to care about Drei just yet, which is fine, but it'd be nice getting places like Rokans or Mantua or Ferona to weigh in. {Keileon || Talk} 18:53, 4 June 2016 (UTC)
I get the distinct impression that:
- Since the Second Great War happens in all three timelines, Nycas would use the other shit happening re: Deveron invasion to his advantage, leading to
- Not only would the Republics be split on who to support with regard to the Houses, but also whether to resist or assist the Voderan invaders, which ultimately leads to a few other things;
- When the Legion forms, it'll be forced to form earlier out of sheer necessity, and
- Its resources will be split trying to fight TWO wars at the same time, and finally
- There may be some infighting a la the Cult in Alter, though this is down to the other people with horses in that race to determine.
3. This also means that my original plan to have Dark's family go on a Manaverse-travelling adventure will actually have an overarching plot, but will have to happen with them as part of the Legion. I'm okay with this.
Shit just got real. --Nebulon Ranger (talk) 19:29, 5 June 2016 (UTC)
Crysia confirmed to be taking (or be going to take) action against Vodera supremacy.
--Shadow (talk) 18:32, 6 June 2016 (UTC)
I feel like Ceskion would be a cautious ally. The Sarkiri would be willing to help the Vodera if it doesn't impact them too much, but would fight back or escape to space at the first sign of Deveron trying to convert their culture or wipe them out. The Kovulzel would run and hide, and the Sarkiri are good enough at hunting them down that they're the only opinion that really matters for Ceskion. The Sarkiri might also object to Vodera occupation, simply because Ceskion isn't big enough to have the resources for all three races. {Keileon || Talk} 21:56, 6 June 2016 (UTC)
As it currently stands:
- Euthora is so far the only confirmed planet to be siding with Deveron of its own volition, but past the surface is torn as to whether to keep supporting the Vodera. To quell a rebellion before it starts, Hirasu appoints a post-SCT Shiveztel as Skyking to rule by proxy.
- The "big three" in terms of resistance: Vindrgard, Crysia, and an intact Rinul, all on the "front lines" of the war. All three would be well-known among resisting planets and would likely help the inhabitants of said planets where possible.
- Citizens of an unnamed plant world fled to Rinul shortly before the Vodera would invade. Unbeknownst to them, their planet cycles Mana faster than the Vodera can keep up and thus is basically currently immune to Vorpalization.
- Ferona is torn and Ceskion hasn't been decided, but both are forcibly relevant due to Voderan presence in that Star System anyway.
- Until Shadow can develop his main's Drei story route and figure out what'd happen to a Vorpalized Phantasia, we have to assume Phantasia does not exist.
- Terrans would likely be eradicated, but we need to consider crazEcorp's potential response.
- Other planets have not been decided. Notably: All Starr and Giga planets (due to them refusing to get involved in Drei currently), Boravel, Vansyr, Daeridune, Yulatra (Just looking at planets category, likely missing a few)
- (Hypothetical) According to Shadow, the Hierarchs would even be torn as to whether they should let the war run its course or reboot the timeline entirely.
{Keileon || Talk} 03:45, 5 August 2016 (UTC)
New cool stuff!
First, of note, there's been a small change of plan regarding Ferona proper. Yes, the Second War happens during Deveron Shenanigans, but it isn't ALREADY happening as it starts. This means the following:
- There would be time for a credible, powerful resistance force to form, basically meaning there's be bodies available to attempt to hold off both the sympathising and Voderan forces. Success may vary, but likelihood is higher now.
- Even more interestingly, because of recent developments with regard to Lycans and Prana sensitivity, they'd be disproportionately represented in the resistance force. I'll write a new Lycan article detailing this later today.
- This also mean that the Legion, having already formed at the earliest possible time out of sheer necessity, would be acting as the sort of "elite force" within the resistance, and would probably gain members by osmosis from the much larger resistance forces to help them fight the inevitable Second War.
For the colonies, it gets a bit dicey:
- Euthoran colony would likely try to actively resist, as they're already a minority on-planet.
- Mantuan colony, because Starr seems to want to bitch out, might not even exist.
Well then,
Nebulon Ranger (talk) 09:51, 9 August 2016 (UTC)
New Pastebin developing the connection between Rinul and Plantworld. {Keileon || Talk} 05:54, 11 August 2016 (UTC)